Liverpool to New York in 1850

Liverpool to New York 3,168mi.jpg

A map helps visualize the journey that my family made.  Abraham and Margaret (Molloy) Neville traveled on the William D Sewall from Liverpool to New York.  They arrived on 11 April 1850 in New York City.  A voyage of 3,168 miles on the cold North Atlantic Ocean.

Margaret gave birth on this voyage, William Neville was one of 15 babies born.  They brought their daughters Mary Ann age 7 and Bridget age 5.  They left their two sons, Joseph age 9 and John age 3 with family in Lynally Glebe, Kings County (Offaly).

My grandmother Mary Veronica (Neville) McTygue told me the story of her father John being left in Ireland.  Her version was that the English wouldn’t let them take all of their children.  I think the real reason was John was only three, they left Joseph age nine to help look after him.   Margaret knew she would be giving birth on the voyage. I don’t think she could watch a three year old and also take care of a new infant.

John Neville arrived and found the family about 1864. I know from land records that John was in Wisconsin in 1874 when the family was purchasing land in York County, Nebraska.

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Looking for Living Descendants of John Neville!

John Neville born 1847 Lynally Glebe, County Offaly, Ireland

John Neville born 1847 Lynally Glebe, County Offaly, Ireland

Have you ever taken time to go back and re-evaluate you genealogy research?  You know more now than when you started your research.

What new tools or resources are now available to use?

I started asking questions about my family about 1962.  Have I made mistakes? Yes, not asking enough questions when I had the chance, but I was only 11 and I didn’t know what genealogy was.  I just knew I wanted to know more about my family.

I have tried to learn as much as I could.  I attend the National Genealogy Society annual Conference.  This is a great place to learn from the best.  What’s new, and how to ‘do it right’. Document what you find!

I am working on a timeline for my Nevill/Neville family.  I am documenting the family in a spreadsheet.

This weekend I attended a reunion with a living male grandson of John Neville born 1847 Lynally Glebe, County Offaly!

John Neville was left behind when his parents – Abraham Neville and Margaret Molloy left Tullamore, traveled to Liverpool to leave for America with two little girls, Mary Ann age 7 and Bridget age 5.  They arrived in New York in April of 1850 with three children – William was born ‘at sea’.

My great-grandfather John Neville finally reunites with his family 14 years later.  I know this using land records I found in Lincoln Nebraska.

John Neville married Anna Morgan in 1882.  John and Anna Neville lived in York County, Nebraska. They had 11 children and 9 survived, and there were 54 grandchildren.

What a special day to get to talk with a grandson of John Neville!  There are not many living descendants left.

A special thank you to Matt Weides for hosting the Neville-Clouse reunion!

Happy St. Patrick’s Day – Today is a Celebration of Heritage and Family!

Robert Emmett McTygue

Robert Emmett McTygue

Happy St. Patrick’s Day to all.  Today is a celebration of family and heritage.  I stop to remember my father – Robert Emmett McTygue who was born on Halloween 1924 and went home to God on St. Patrick’s Day 2013.

All of my father’s ancestors came from Ireland and I have had so much fun learning about them.  I remember going to Ireland with my parents and being able to introduce Dad to cousins that he had never met.  We had such fun.

Bob McTygue & Tom Condron

This is a picture of my father and Tom Condron taken in 1990 in Lynally, Offaly- I think Dad looks more like Tom than some of his brothers.  Those Neville genes are very strong.

My father was very proud of his Irish heritage and he passed that love of Ireland, history and family to me.

Thank you Dad – you were the best!

Can Genealogy be exciting after 40 years?

William Nevil's signature. William was born about 1680 in Ireland.

William Nevil’s signature. William was born about 1680 in Ireland.

2014 has been an amazing year!

When you work on a family for many years you think you have found everything.  I started asking questions about my family in 1962.  My grandmother was Mary Veronica Neville.  She was born in 1893 in York Nebraska and was the daughter of John Neville who was born in Lynally in Feb 1847.  John was left behind with an older brother Joseph Neville when their parents Abraham and Margaret Neville left for America in 1850.

My first trip to Ireland was in 1990 and we visited Tullamore, and that is where I found I had cousins still living west of the castle walls.  I have found this family in Griffiths Valuation, the Tithe Applotment Books and a 1802 Church of Ireland census for Lynally.  Matt Mooney told me the family had moved to Tullamore about 1798 from Mountmellick.

This summer I found a deed for William Nevill of Mountmellick.  The deed identified William as a ‘clothier’ and named his three sons: Henry, William and Joseph.  I discovered that they were Quakers and I visited the Quaker Library in Dublin.  William married Elizabeth Pleadwell in 1792 and after she died he married Anne Atkinson in 1719.  I take Irish genealogy class in Salt Lake City every fall.  I laid out the deed and where I thought my Neville family connected to William Nevill of Mountmellick.

If William married the first time in 1702, he would have to be at least 21 years of age. I know that my William was married twice because he named his parents on both marriage documents!

So now I have a signature of William Nevill of Mountmellick, the son of Henry and Mary Nevill. This is nine generations for me back into Ireland.

Can genealogy be exciting after 40 years? Yes, it can!!

What can you learn about your ancestors?

Charleville Castle Door The Claw

Have you ever wished you could spend a day with one of your ancestors?  I often wish I could sit down and ask them about how they lived, why they moved and what was their life like.

My first visit to Ireland I learned about William Nevil/ Neville.  Family oral tradition is that William moved from Mountmellick in Queens County to Tullamore to help build a castle.  Mountmellick had been the home for the Nevill family from about 1700.

This summer I attended the Ancestral Connections Conference at UCC.  On Wednesday afternoon Dr. Jane Lyons and John Nangle talked about cemeteries and headstones.  John brought all the tools that they would have used.  These are the same tools that a stone mason would use to build a castle.  I took photos of all of the tools.

The next week when I was in Tullamore I visited Charleville Castle again.  I really noticed the beautiful stone work around the large double doors. It would take a master craftsman to carve such delicate lines in stone – in 1800!

“William, why did you move 14 miles from Mountmellick to Tullamore?” I can see in a 1802 church census you have a wife and four children – Jane, Joseph, Abraham & William. Building this castle would take a long time and you have a family to support.

The next record that I have found William in is the Lynally Glebe  the  1828 Tithe Applotment Books.  William’s last name is now spelled ‘Neville’ and he is renting 46 acres!  That is a lot of land at that time.  I can also see that by the time of Griffith’s Valuation – William is no longer there, but Jeremiah and Jacob are taking care of the Neville land. (note- In 1856 they are listed as Jeremiah Kelly and Jacob Kelly. In the 1863 Cancel Book it is corrected back to Jeremiah and Jacob Neville.)

Neville – Nevel – Nevils – don’t worry about the spelling!

 

This is the Lynally church that my  Neville ancestors attended.

This is the Lynally church that my Neville ancestors attended.

Lynally Glebe is the townland in County Offaly (Kings) where my Neville ancestors moved to in 1799. I found the Aug 1802 census for this church.  It is not a large Church, but the Lord Viscount and Lady Viscountess of Charleville also attended this church.  William Nevils, wife, children Jane, Joseph, Abraham, William are my ancestors who were also members.

I met with Matt Mooney, a cousin, who lives in Lynally and loves working on the Neville family history too! Matt showed me an ad from the Boston Pilot “The Search for Misssing Friends” the Irish would post an ad looking for family members

– Of Catherine Egan, formerly of Tullamore parish of Lynnally, Kings county who came to America in 1844; located in Albany, NY; married Elijah Nevills of same parish and county, when last heard from was in Duncan Falls, Muskingham County Ohio. Information of her will be received by her brothers, Simeon and Patrick Egan, 102 Beeker Street, New York.

Matt & I think this is another member of the family.   When I returned home I took a long look at the naming pattern. This is what I found.

Abraham Nevil & Margaret Molloy – married 1840 children: Joseph (1841) Mary Ann, Ann Bridget, John, William, Sara Jane, James, Hubert, Margaret

Elijah Nevel & Catherine Egan (no marriage record found yet) children: Joseph (1849), William, Ann, John, Mary Jane, Catherine, Charles, Sarah

Jeremiah Neville & Anne Kelly – married 1844 children: Elizabeth Joseph (1855) Catherine, Bridget, Margaret

The amazing thing is all three named their first son Joseph – The grandfather was William, why did they choose Joseph.  Joseph was the oldest son for William and most likely Williams fathers name. Did something happen to the Joseph the oldest son of William? I don’t have any record of him.

The other interesting thing I found was that Elijah and Catherine Nevel were in Albany New York, and where did Abraham and Margaret Nevils go to when then arrived in New York in 1850 – Albany New York!

Searching for my Nevil/Neville “Twigs on the Tree”

Ring of Berra

Genealogy is a journey taken one step at a time.  Starting with yourself and going back one generation at a time.  This photo is an excellent example of going on this journey.  You never quite know where you are going when you begin the search backwards.

I have had a lot of people say, “Oh, I am descended from …….!”  They might be, but start with yourself and take one step at a time. Let the records and documents lead the way.  Oral traditions are good, but not proof!

I took this photo on the Ring of Berra in Ireland. My genealogy journey is exciting because I don’t know exactly where I will end up.  Today I was doing research in the National Library of Ireland.   One set of records that I really wanted is no longer available! Due to the fight for Irish Independence in 1922.   But I did get a couple of ideas of other record groups to search.  Trouble is it is going to take some time to really research those record groups.  I need to look at the Quaker meeting minutes for Mountmellick and some deeds for the same area for the Nevil or Neville connection!

Twigs on the Tree!

800 year oak@Charleville 2

 

This is a blog about my genealogy journey.  “Twigs on the Tree” is the phrase my mother would say when I would would tell her about finding new family members.  So Mom this blog is for you!

This tree has a very special meaning for my genealogy journey.  This is the “King Tree from Charleville Castle in Tullamore County Offaly Ireland.  My dad’s ancestors – the Neville family were stone masons that moved to Tullamore in 1799 to help build the castle.  This oak tree is between 400 and 800 years old!  I am not back that far with my family history, but I just keep trying.